{"id":597,"date":"2018-04-13T13:00:11","date_gmt":"2018-04-13T13:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/new.uccronline.it\/eng\/?p=597"},"modified":"2018-04-13T19:15:21","modified_gmt":"2018-04-13T19:15:21","slug":"early-date-of-marks-gospel-what-dead-sea-scrolls-say","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.uccronline.it\/eng\/2018\/04\/13\/early-date-of-marks-gospel-what-dead-sea-scrolls-say\/","title":{"rendered":"Early date of Mark&#8217;s Gospel: what Dead Sea Scrolls say?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/new.uccronline.it\/eng\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/7Q5.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-598\" src=\"http:\/\/new.uccronline.it\/eng\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/7Q5-245x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"169\" height=\"207\" \/><\/a>One year ago, the Hebrew University of Jerusalem signaled the discovery of <strong>12th Qumran cave<\/strong>, that would host the fame texts of Dead Sea, including the oldest manuscripts of the Bible. Among them also the fragment called <u><b>7Q5<\/b><\/u>, what could be connected to <b>Mark&#8217;s Gospel<\/b>. <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Qumran caves <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/opinion\/2017\/02\/08\/why-incredible-new-discovery-proves-that-dead-sea-scrolls-belong-to-israel.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">are considered<\/a><\/em> the greates archaelogical discovery of 20\u00b0 century, they emerged by chance in <strong>1947<\/strong> from a cave about a mile from the Dead sea&#8217;s west coast. The going assumption is that they were hidden from <strong>Essenes community<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The discovery is even more fascinating if one consider the famous fragment of papyrus called <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>7Q5<\/strong><\/span>, which is the 5th manuscript found in 7th Qumran cave. About it has been unleashed a international debate between papyrologists and Bible scholars, when in in 1972 the leading scholar <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Jos\u00e9 O\u2019 Callaghan<\/strong><\/span> has identified the text on 7Q5 as a piece of <strong>Mark&#8217;s Gospel<\/strong>: 6:52-53, to be exact. The definitive draft of this Gospel is commonly dated at 70 A.D., however if O&#8217;Callaghan&#8217;s right should be <strong>backdate<\/strong> this at around 50 A.D. (about 20 years after Jesus&#8217;s death), because all the archaelogical research exclude that the Qumran site was inhabited or used after 68 A.D.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In the &#8217;90s, two italian catholic weekly &#8211;<strong><i>Il Sabato<\/i><\/strong> and <strong><i>30 giorni<\/i><\/strong>&#8211; monitored the development of debate, and their articles on &#8220;Qumran case&#8221; are including in a book called <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.itacalibri.it\/catalogo\/aa-vv-\/vangelo-e-storicita.aspx?ai=5076&amp;avi=5073&amp;idC=61756\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Vangelo e storicit\u00e0<\/i><\/a><\/strong> (BUR 1995), by italian theologian Stefano Alberto.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In support of theory of spanish papyrologist O\u2019 Callaghan <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.forananswer.org\/Top_Ath\/GreekQumranFrag.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">intervened<\/a><\/em> his german colleague <strong>Carsten Peter Thiede<\/strong>, that independently confirmed identification of 7Q5 as a part of a roll containing Mark&#8217;s Gospel. Moreover, Thiede claimed that other fragment, the <strong>7Q4<\/strong>, must be attributed to First letter of Paul to Timothy (the same was said of prof. <strong>Emile Puech<\/strong>, one of five leaders that oversaw the Qumran&#8217;s works).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Many scholars, however, <strong>objected<\/strong> to this conclusions, citing many reasons, on which O&#8217;Calaghan <em><a href=\"http:\/\/es.catholic.net\/op\/articulos\/1071\/cat\/115\/debate-sobre-los-papiros-de-qumran.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">answered<\/a><\/em>. The critics were Bruce Metzger, father Joseph Fitzmyer, Julio Trebolle, father Pierre Grelot, from Institut Catholique of Paris, \u00c9mile Puech (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.donatocalabrese.it\/jesus\/archeo1.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">whom<\/a><\/em> Carsten Peter Thiede <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblistica.it\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/6.-Il-Vangelo-di-Marco.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">answered<\/a><\/em>) and Gianfranco Ravasi, member to Pontifical Biblical Commission. They&#8217;re all bible scholars, not papyrologists. Someone also launched incredibile personal attacks against O\u2019 Callaghan and Thiede, going out to field of science. <strong>Paolo Sacchi<\/strong>, professor of Hebrew and Aramaic at Turin University, said: <i>\u00abAbout dating of Gospel happen shocking facts. Certain scientific criteria that are used for other texts, no longer apply with New Testament\u00bb<\/i> (p. 254).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The leading papyrologists turned with O&#8217;Callaghan, as said in 1994 the famed jesuit and bible scholar <strong>Ignace de la Potterie<\/strong>: <i>\u00abThe papyrologists have showed unanimously agreed: that text, than anything is about, couldn&#8217;t have been written after the year 50 A.D.\u00bb<\/i>. About the few legible letters of fragment, <strong>computer searches<\/strong> have provided <i>\u00abobsessively only one answer: that piece belong to Mark&#8217;s Gospel\u00bb<\/i> (I. de la Potteire, <i>E\u2019 una scoperta inattesa<\/i>, <i>30 giorni<\/i> july-august 1994, quoted in <i>Vangelo e storicit\u00e0<\/i>, p. 217-219). The bible scholar referring to x-ray exam carried out on 7Q5 in 1992, by National Police Department of Israel, which confirmed the conformity of the text with Mark&#8217;s Gospel passage. A informational exam was carried out also by Protestant theologian <strong>Kurt Aland<\/strong>, one of those who opponents of O&#8217;Callaghan, and it have been negative. However the prof. <strong>Ferdinand Rohrhirsch<\/strong> from Eichst\u00e4tt University proved that Aland just used a wrong program (it was a real stomach punch, in fact the theologian didn&#8217;t show-up at Symposium in 1991). Finally, the mathematician <strong>Albert Dou<\/strong>, professor at Madrid University and member of Real Academy of Sciences, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.elalmendro.org\/obras\/libroa007.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">proved<\/a><\/em> that the possibility of 7Q5 doesn&#8217;t match to the verse 52-53 of 6th chapter to Mark&#8217;s Gospel, is <strong>1 in 900 billion<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In support of this identification came a international luminary of papyrology, <strong>Orsolina Montevecchi<\/strong>, professor emeritus at Catholic University of Milan and president of International Association of Papyrologists. In a interview in 1994, she said: <i>\u00abas papyrologist I can say that I consider undoubtedly right this identification. The still visible five lines of fragment correspond to Mark 6:52-53. It is highly improbable the match with a other text\u00bb<\/i> (in <i>Ricerchiamo senza pregiudizi<\/i>, in <i>\u201c30 giorni\u201d<\/i> july-august 1994, quoted in <i>Vangelo e storicit\u00e0<\/i>, p. 211-214). <strong>Sergio Davis<\/strong>, honorary president to International Association of Papyrologists and <strong>Giuseppe Ghiberti<\/strong>, president of Italian Biblical Association <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.british-israel.ca\/Mark.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">were<\/a><\/em> of the same opinion. Also many Protestant scholars were in favor of the Mark&#8217;s Gospel identification, as lutheran <strong>Otto Betz<\/strong>, emeritus of History of Judaism and New Testament at Tubinga University, and <strong>Rainer Riesner<\/strong>, professor of New Testament in the same university. From Jewish world <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.british-israel.ca\/Mark.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">was important<\/a><\/em> the voice of prof. <strong>Shemaryahu Talmon<\/strong>, Bible scholar at Hebrew university of Jerusalem and a Jewish member of dating to Dead Sea scrolls.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The ranks of supporters grew during and after the <strong>Eichstatt University Qumran Symposium<\/strong> in 1991. On this occasion, unfortunately, the opponents of O\u2019 Callaghan&#8217;s theory didn&#8217;t show-up even thought they were invited. During this event given a favourable judgement also prof. <strong>Bargil Pixner<\/strong>, benedictine authority on the Dead Sea Scrolls, prof. <strong>Bernhard Mayer<\/strong>, theologian at Eichst\u00e4tt University, the Bible scholaras <strong>Benedikt Schwank<\/strong> and <strong>Luis Alonso Sch\u00f6kel<\/strong>, and the eminent professor of New Testament at Princeton University, <strong>James Charlesworth<\/strong>. The papyrology <strong>Herbert Hunger<\/strong>, professor emeritus of Byzantinism at Vienna University and director at Department of Papyri of the Austrian National Library, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.aciprensa.com\/reportajes\/7q5.htm#6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">claimed<\/a><\/em>: <i>\u00abI&#8217;m not religious and I&#8217;m not a Bible scholar. I am a scientist and as scientist say that from the closely papyrological point of view there&#8217;s no question: O&#8217;Callaghan is right\u00bb<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The proof of papyrology O\u2019Callaghan joined with that to liberal scholar <strong>J.A.T. Robinson<\/strong>, who, before O&#8217;Challaghan, proposed to backdate all texts of New Testament before to 70 A.D. The same proposed came from eminent Bible scholar <strong>G\u00fcnther Zuntz<\/strong> and from palaeographer <strong>Colin H. Roberts<\/strong>, who have dated Mark&#8217;s Gospel between 50 B.C. and 50 A.D.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Assignement to 7Q5 of Mark&#8217;s Gospel <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>is important but not fundamental<\/strong><\/span> as concerns historicity of evangelical writings, which preserve their historical reliability also if wouln&#8217;t have been written before 70 A.D. In fact, we should consider the pre-synoptic and oral sources, that have developed right after the death of Christ (and, according to some scholars, also during His life). Like papyrology <strong>Orsolina Montevecchi<\/strong> said, <i>\u00abthere&#8217;s nothing to defend: also if the Qumran fragment there is not a Mark&#8217;s Gospel, the christianity doesn&#8217;t lose anything. However, from textual and palaeographic point of view, that&#8217;s my specialty, is <strong>virtually impossible<\/strong> that it may be other text, maybe unknow. There&#8217;re well five lines of text on which we can build! So, this fragment of Mark&#8217;s Gospel is datable 20 years after the Jesus death\u00bb<\/i> (p. 211-214).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>The editorial staff<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>7Q5 &#038; Mark&#8217;s Gospel: this fragment of papyrus is the 5th manuscript found in 7th Qumran cave. 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